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I know you said this feels like running sandpaper across your face, but bringing up charity / "effective altrusim" is completely orthogonal to Marxism, truly. Nothing about charity is relevant to a Marxist vision of history, or to a better economic order of society one way or the other.

It's difficult, too, to talk about "a Marxist morality" -- there really is no such thing. Morality and ethics is something you have to bring to a Marxist analysis, not something you can take from it. Having a certain morality or ethics will influence you to adopt a Marxist critique of society, but Marx wasn't doing ethical philosophy. One of my favorite Marx quotes:

"To prevent possible misunderstanding, a word. I paint the capitalist and the landlord in no sense couleur de rose [i.e., seen through rose-tinted glasses]. But here individuals are dealt with only in so far as they are the personifications of economic categories, embodiments of particular class-relations and class-interests. **My standpoint, from which the evolution of the economic formation of society is viewed as a process of natural history, can less than any other make the individual responsible for relations whose creature he socially remains, however much he may subjectively raise himself above them.**"

It would only be relevant if charity were a piece of the puzzle in overcoming capitalism, and it simply isn't -- even though more money helps poor and working people more than less money does, charity does nothing to restructure the social relations of production in society -- if anything, charity can only reflect or reify them in a "superstructural" way.

My family received some charity recently -- not to get too much into it, but rarely in life have I "felt my place" so clearly. When we interacted with volunteers, some people were normal and chill, but more often than not we were expected to go on and on about how grateful we were, how lucky we were, how much this meant to us. It was a weird position to be in, because this assistance had very little to do with money -- we're about as well off as your average Americans, a little better probably. But because we needed this assistance, it put us in a social position of subservience anyway that we had to perform for others, and that subservience took on these class characteristics because we live in a class society -- we had to prove we "deserved" it, and that means knowing our place, which is "lower," and performing it for others. It also meant outperforming our cohort, meant putting in *more* time and effort than other families who didn't get it, who aren't "lower," or else we would've been severely penalized.

Needless to say, this isn't a Marxist vision.

I appreciate Hasan, mostly because I see the general Marxist analysis he makes spread online among younger people. He's spreading an understanding of class and capitalist international relations that just did not exist when I was a teen, and in a way that even Bernie couldn't given the sound-bite level limitations of political campaign discourse in our country.

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Misa Kai's avatar

This is a very good article.

I would also like to add that not only does he have massive amounts of wealth, but even his defense that he "didn't exploit anyone's labor" is very weak. There is a very good argument to be made that he does in fact exploit people, because he is one of the online figures who produce "react content" - which is basically just theft by another name.

React content is when big streamers and YouTubers sit down to watch the entirety of other people's videos while recording both themselves and the video, with the reactor putting no effort in to editing. This ends up having the effect of making the rich richer and the poor poorer because the views and engagement are effectively stolen from the original content creator and given to the reactor, because whoever has watched the reaction is not going to watch the original video (after all, they already watched it through the reactor's video).

DarkViperAU has made a good video detailing how Hasan Piker has exploited people in this way, in a series of videos explaining how other streamers and YouTubers have done the exact same exploitation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1zPshj5f0

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